Comments on: iPhone OS 3.0 music: totally incompatible

By: sosaudio1

sosaudio1 — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:33:20 +0000

Ubuntu wiki looks like they have a new updated way to get it to work….BUT….it is by virtual machine and of course valid M$ XP OS

By: qwandor

qwandor — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:05:46 +0000

This may not be the best place to ask, but has anyone managed to write any software to sync 3.0 iPhones yet, or made any progress towards it?

By: omry

omry — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:38:27 +0000

This could very well be the reason for the encrypted file:
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/07/apple_kills_pal.html

By: sosaudio1

sosaudio1 — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:40:03 +0000

Just to be clear, does this affect just the syncing of the iPhone with iTunes and Linux? In other words, can I just hook up my iPhone using the USB, have it mount, and then drag music, photos, etc to the iPhone? From there, if that is possible, how and where. My biggest concern is turning my iPhone into a brick once I connect it to the computer. Any new info would be great.

Thanks for what you do

By: marcan

marcan — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:18:46 +0000

I know that iTunes will happily see old-format databases (after all, it has to deal with every single iPod to date still, and older iPhone OS versions). However, I’m sure if you look at the folder structure after having iTunes connect to it you’ll find the new-format databases. In fact, it’s quite likely that this exact method that you saw is how the music gets seamlessly migrated to the new format after updating the iPhone OS using iTunes.

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:15:07 +0000

Well here is some interesting info:

I have a jailbroken Ipod Touch 1G 3.0

So I moved the new iTunes_Control Folder Structure over to some other place, than allowed gtkpod to create an old structure (2.x) there..
I then added some music. I tried to access that music, and it of course failed.. with no music listed on my ipod touch

I switched my system Over to a Windows Vista boot, then ran iTunes 8.2..
it saw my iPod, and also saw the music that I added (not the photos though), all listed there..
after an initial connection (not syncing any music just connecting up)

New I can see the music I added in my iPod.. (album covers too!)

Hope that sheds some light for you guys…

I’m going to use this method of getting music onto my ipod until something better comes along..

By: HotBreeze

HotBreeze — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:41:02 +0000

Sure… Maintaning framework compatibility, this was my point. BTW, nice code. Are u planning to study and do the necessary changes for writing the new library format to iPhone/iPod?

By: marcan

marcan — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:06:54 +0000

The syncing stuff is easy. I wrote a proper usbmux clone for linux (see http://git.marcansoft.com/ ) and I there are other projects which implement the syncing protocol and such. Syncing using open source is also easy, just set up an rsync server or an sftp server or something like that.

The main reason to maintain compatibility with Apple’s music library implementation is to keep App Store framework compatibility.

By: HotBreeze

HotBreeze — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:47:44 +0000

@ankh: replacing MobileMediaPlayer means replacing lot of other frameworks, like the syncing daemon and the own MobileMediaPlayer framework [that 3rd party apps can use, in 3.0 software] meaning more incompatibility. It’s easy to interpret how the whole stuff works [maybe using a USB packet logger] and write a opensource library that most media players can use

By: ankh

ankh — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:42:00 +0000

I installed 3.0 over the weekend and couldn’t get Amarok to play nicely with it. I had reckoned that if I left it a week after the FW was released, any MobileMediaPlayer changes would have been quickly documented by other folks. How wrong I was!

I want to issue a call to arms to the OSS community to quash the bug that is MobileMediaPlayer once and for all. We need an OPEN media player on the iPhone that acts as a drop-in replacement for MobileMediaPlayer. Something like dTunes, but REPLACES the standard player with something unencumbered by DRM / obfuscated hashes / etc. My development skills lie in other areas, but surely there is a demand for such a beast?

Let’s stop chasing the iTunes / MobileMediaPlayer dragon and just build our own solution.